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Friday, May 18, 2007

Susan: Basic White Bread


This bread, which I call Farmhouse White, is a staple in our house and we pretty much always have it around. I've been tweaking the recipe for 7 years and this is the result. It's great for just about any kind of sandwich, and brings peanut butter and jelly (another staple in our house) to a whole new level, especially if you treat yourself to some nice organic peanut butter and jam. It is wonderful toasted, smells heavenly while toasting, and makes the quintessential BLT.

This is the kind of old-fashioned, homey bread that a few people were lucky enough to grow up eating--and everyone else wishes they had. It is wholesome and filling and about as far from Wonder Bread as a basic white sandwich bread can get. I've watched people who claim they never eat white bread gobble this stuff up.

A lot of white sandwich bread recipes call for dry milk powder. Besides never having any around, I don't see the point of it. If you want more flavor, simply replace some or all of the water in the recipe with milk. For years I made this bread with water, and it was perfectly fine. Part of the reason I focused on a water-based recipe was because we'll be selling Farmhouse White when our wholesale bread bakery is up and running, and the cost of using organic milk (which is the only kind I would consider) would be cost prohibitive. But since I recently found a local source for reasonably priced raw, whole milk that should be able to supply enough for our bakery, I've started making all my Farmhouse White with milk.

According to Joe Ortiz in The Village Baker (a wonderful book packed with interesting tips and techniques for bakers of all levels), making your bread with milk will not only give a richer flavor, but also "a deeper color to the crust and a softer body to the crumb." And when used as an additive to French bread, "milk also helps to provide some of the flavor of a lactic fermentation that happens naturally in a sourdough process." In The Breakfast Book, author Marion Cunningham states that milk, along with sugar and butter (or other fat) "give the loaves keeping qualities which help preserve flavor and moistness." Baking bread is a perfect way to use up milk that has gone sour.

This recipe makes three loaves of bread because in my opinion, if you have freezer space or friends, there's no reason to bake only one loaf of bread at a time. Bread freezes beautifully--and you won't believe how much your friends will love you if you present them with a freshly baked loaf.

There are all sorts of things you can do with this dough once you've mastered the basic formula. I'll be posting a separate article offering various tips and ideas in the next day or two.

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Susan's Farmhouse White Sandwich Bread
Makes 3 loaves, approximately 1-1/2 pounds each

Ingredient US volume | Metric Volume | US weight | Metric
all-purpose flour 4 cups | 940 ml | 1 lb, 4 ounces | 566 grams
instant yeast 2 Tablespoons | 30 ml | 22 grams
granulated sugar 2 Tablespoons | 30 ml | 28 grams
canola oil 2 Tablespoons | 30 ml | 30 grams
milk or water 4 cups | 940 ml | 2 lbs | 908 grams
bread flour (approximately) 6 cups | 1,410 ml | 1 lb, 13-1/8 ounces | 825 grams
salt 1-1/2 Tablespoons | 22 ml | 3/4 ounce | 22 grams

Mixing and fermentation

Autolyse
Autolyse (pronounced AUTO-lees and used as both a noun and a verb) is a French word that refers to a rest period given to dough during the kneading process. When making your dough, mix together only the water, yeast, flour, and grains until it forms a shaggy mass. Knead it for several minutes, and then cover the dough and let it rest for 20 minutes. (I simply leave the dough on the floured counter and put my wooden bowl over it.) During this time, the gluten will relax and the dough will absorb more water, smoothing itself out so that it is moist and easier to shape. After the autolyse, knead the dough for several more minutes, mixing in any other ingredients such as herbs or nuts or dried fruit.

In a very large bowl, stir together the all-purpose flour, yeast, and sugar (I use a wooden spoon). Make a small well in the middle of the flour mixture and pour in the canola oil and then the milk. Mix well, then continue to stir vigorously, slowly adding 1 cup of the bread flour at a time, until you've added about 5 cups, or until you have a soft, slightly sticky dough; this should take several minutes.

Turn the dough out onto a floured surface and knead for about 6 or 7 minutes, adding more flour as necessary to keep the dough from sticking to your hands or the work surface.

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Place the mixing bowl over the dough, and let it rest for 20 minutes. This rest period is called the autolyse.

Remove the bowl, flatten out the dough with your hands, and sprinkle about half of the salt over it. Begin kneading the salt into the dough. After a few turns, sprinkle on the rest of the salt and continue to knead for 5 to 7 minutes, until the salt is completely incorporated and the dough is soft and smooth.

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Sprinkle flour in the dough bowl, place the dough in it, liberally dust it with flour, and cover it with a damp tea towel (not terry cloth, as it will shed lint on your dough). Set it somewhere that is preferably between 70F and 78F for 60 to 90 minutes. Ideally, the dough should also be between 70F and 78F. It's easy to check the temperature of your dough and ingredients with an inexpensive instant read thermometer.

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When the dough is ready to be shaped, you should be able to push a floured finger deep into it and leave an indentation that doesn't spring back.Unless your dough is rising in a straight-sided container, it can be difficult to judge whether it has "doubled in size" which is the guideline most recipes use. I find the finger poking method to be more reliable.

Shaping and final rise (proof)
Turn the risen dough out onto a lightly floured work surface, flattening gently with your hands to break up any large air bubbles. Divide the dough into three equal pieces.

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Shape the dough into loaves and dust the tops with flour. There are dozens of ways to do this; more info on shaping loaves will be added soon either in a sidebar or separate post. Place loaves seam side down in greased loaf pans. I like my sandwich breads to be tall, so I use smaller loaf pans. I can't say enough good things about these commercial loaf pans from Chicago Metallic. They measure 8-1/2 inches x 4-1/2 inches and just under 3 inches high. For the price of a few loaves of bread, they're definitely worth the investment. They also make this larger size pan for those of you who prefer a wider, shorter loaf.

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Cover the loaves with a damp tea towel and let them rise for 45 to 60 minutes. When you lightly poke the dough with a floured finger it should spring back just a little.

If you let the loaves rise too long, they may not have enough energy left to rise once they're in the oven--and they may even collapse. I was always so afraid this would happen that for years I unknowingly under-proofed my loaves of Farmhouse White. While the bread was

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still delicious, you can see that the dough had so much 'oven spring' that it basically blew apart the side of the loaf. I finally started letting the loaves rise a little longer and was rewarded with the more evenly shaped and visually appealing bread that you see in the top two photos.

Bake at 375 degrees for 35 minutes or until the loaves are golden brown and the bottoms sound hollow if tapped. Remove immediately from pans and let cool on a wire rack. Try to wait at least 40 minutes before cutting into a loaf. Store at room temperature or freeze in zipper freezer bags. Make sure loaves are completely cooled before sealing in bags.

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59 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Susan: Your bread looks and I am sure tastes delicious. I have not made a plain white bread in a long time. I like to at least add wheat germ for a little extra nutrition. Do you think that would work in this recipe? Also, is there a particular reason that you used canola oil, or would any oil of choice work? I seem to be allergic to canola and would like to use something else. Ordinarily I would just go ahead and try these changes on my own, but since this is making a lot of bread, I would rather not have to dump three loaves. Thanks for your time in answering me.

judyinktown

5/18/2007 11:36 AM  
Blogger oopsydeb said...

I am just silly excited to try this, having read so much about your farmhouse white. I'm home today, so I'm popping into the kitchen to get this started.

5/18/2007 11:51 AM  
Blogger planetKnit said...

These loaves conjure up memories of a local grocery that had a real bakery in the store when I was growing up. They had a limited selection, but their white bread and buttercrust white were favorites at our house.
Do you have any tips or info about modifying for buttercrust?
Also, what are the dimensions of your loaf pans?
I'm stopping for bread flour on the way home from work!
Thanks!!

5/18/2007 11:53 AM  
Blogger Asha said...

Great to see the perfect bread in the first photo.Great info about nitty gritty of Bread making.Thanks.
I am making Indian Naan right now in the bread machine(just using the dough cycle I mean)and this recipe has remarkably similar ingredients except lot less flour(just 4 1/2 cups plain and wheat mixed) and I am baking at 500F for 6-8mins and brushing with Garlic,butter,cumin pd mix.Are you drooling yet!!;D

5/18/2007 11:58 AM  
Blogger Peg-woolinmysoup said...

Hi Susan; I was one of the lucky ones who always had homemade bread growing up, so did my children. I have made the No-knead bread - delicious and we love the crust. Question - I have put a wee bit of olive oil in the hot casserole - worried the bread would stick and too chicken not to use it. Is it necessary? Also, how do I copy out the recipe? Thanks and I love your blog - animals, garden, food, etc.

5/18/2007 12:12 PM  
Anonymous farmgirl susan said...

Hi Judy,
Yes, you can certainly add some wheat germ to this dough. In fact, you can add all sorts of things to it. I'll be posting a follow-up article in the next day or two offering tips and ideas.

I use canola oil because it's pretty much flavorless, is easier than melting butter, and I always have it on hand. You can substitute any type of oil, or you can use melted butter.

Hi Oopsydeb,
Happy baking!

Hi Planetknit,
By 'buttercrust' do you mean a sort of Dutch Crunch top? Or simply brushed with butter? You can certainly brush the tops of the loaves with butter before baking, or take them out of the oven about 5 minutes before they're done, brush with butter, and put back in oven. I haven't made a Dutch Crunch bread before. Or were you talking about something else entirely? : )

There were quite a few details that were edited out of this article to make it shorter, including info about my loaf pans. I've put some of the info back in, including an amazon link to the pans I use. The product description says the 1-pound loaf pans are 9 x 5 inches, but the actual measurements of the pans are 8-1/2" x 4-1/2" x about 3 inches high. This is what I generally call an 8 x 4 inch pan.

Happy baking to you, too!

Hi Asha,
Sounds delish. Interesting coincidence, too, as just yesterday I printed out a recipe for naan. I was drooling then and am drooling again now!

Hi Peg-woolinmysoup,
So glad you're enjoying my blog.

I don't think any oil in the dutch oven is necessary when making the no-knead bread. And remember, you can also bake it on a hot baking stone instead of using the dutch oven, and the baking stone is never greased. : )

The easiest way to print out a recipe on this blog is to highlight it, copy it, paste it somewhere like Notepad, and then print it out.

And now I have to get back down to the barn and check on a newborn lamb! : )

5/18/2007 12:33 PM  
Anonymous Mary said...

This bread looks perfect. I have been trying to get as many whole grains into our diet as possible, but allow for some white bread and white rice occasionally. A loaf like this looks like it would make the perfect grilled cheese sandwich.

Mary
www.ceresandbacchus.com

5/18/2007 12:50 PM  
Blogger kitchenmage said...

Great article, Susan! I love all the photos of the process. Not to mention the Farmhouse White recipe, which some of us have been wanting forever. I may have to bake when we get back from the CSA/farm market.

5/18/2007 5:04 PM  
Blogger oopsydeb said...

The bread is out of the oven! It was very easy to put together and is a GREAT basic white bread. Just a note: I used 2% milk instead of water.

The finished product has passed one of my very important sandwich loaf tests. I just had a great egg salad sandwich with it, half on toast, half not toasted. Both were fantastic.

Thanks for a great recipe, Susan! Happy baking everyone else.

5/18/2007 5:05 PM  
Blogger kitchenmage said...

oopsydeb, goodness woman, it only took you three hours from raw flour to a sandwich!?! I bow in your direction...

5/18/2007 5:29 PM  
Blogger Lauren said...

It's so funny, I had just put some yeast and sugar into some water to proof (I still have a slight worry about "dead" yeast so I always proof it first) and then thought about checking to see if there was a new bread recipe up yet. The funniest part is that I was planning to make some basic sandwich bread! I'm using your tips and recipe (though modified since I only used 1 Tablespoon of yeast and didn't think to add more until I'd already mixed in flour -- duh) but with 1 1/2 cups of white whole wheat substituted for an equal amount of all-purpose (I basically halved your recipe for all amounts and I ran out of bread flour after 2 cups, so I used 2 cups of bread flour instead of 3 -- half of the 6 -- and 1 1/2 cups of the white whole wheat and 1 1/2 cups of AP -- 5 total instead of 10 total, or something like that!). Yeah, I guess I didn't follow the recipe too closely. :D

My autolyse period is just about over so I'd better go add the salt!

5/18/2007 5:47 PM  
Blogger oopsydeb said...

Now Beth, it was FIVE hours between posts, not 3. I don't want to get falsely accused of skipping the autolyse or some other short cut.

And, I had my yeast at room temperature already, planning to make more oatmeal toasting bread.

Lauren, I like your idea of subbing in some white whole wheat. I might try that next time.

5/18/2007 6:45 PM  
Anonymous Miss Sue said...

Hey Farmgirl, it's beautiful bread. I must make it soon, once I convince the snobby part of myself that it's OK to make non-fancy bread again. Can you let us know about the protein percentages between your all-purpose vs. bread flours? I use Bob's Red Mill Unbleached for lots of things, and it's 11.7% protein. I believe King Arthur all-purpose has a similar protein percentage, so I'm not sure whether to bother using two kinds of flour...maybe just use the Red Mill for the entire amount. Thanks!

Sue

5/18/2007 7:48 PM  
Blogger Lauren said...

oopsydeb,

I use half white whole wheat and half all purpose in pretty much all my baking. No one at work who eats and buys my cookies, brownies, cakes, etc has ever said anything. I use different proportions depending what I'm making. Cakes I go half and half, cookies and brownies sometimes I do 100% white whole wheat. Pie dough gets about 1/4 cup white whole wheat in a recipe that calls for 2 cups total flour.

White whole wheat is a lot milder and less "wheaty" than regular whole wheat. It works well to try and sneak those whole grains into sweets.

5/18/2007 8:26 PM  
Blogger Kevin said...

A general comment,

Whole wheat, white or otherwise, includes the wheat bran. One of the reasons whole wheat bread tends to be heavy is because the shards of bran are sharp and, during kneading, cut through the strands of gluten and so it has less flexibility when rising.

It's worth while to keep this in mind when substituting whole wheat flour for more processed flour. It affects the bread's rising characteristics.

5/18/2007 9:20 PM  
Blogger Lauren said...

Kevin,

Yes. I agree. Though my bread always tastes really good, the more white whole wheat I use, the denser it is.

My bread is out of the oven, by the way. I couldn't even wait 5 minutes before breaking off a corner. It's really good. YUMMY!

5/18/2007 9:51 PM  
Blogger Kevin said...

Lauren,
Susan's Farmgirl loaf is extraordinarily good -- whatever one does to it. That's the mark of a solid recipe.

5/18/2007 10:21 PM  
Blogger kitchenmage said...

oopsydeb, Sorry! It must be a timezone thing with how it records the comment time - I thought maybe you had a warm kitchen and bread pixies. I know you would never cheat!

Tomorrow is my bread day for the week: I've got a huge container of poolish fermenting on the counter for bagels and baguettes, maybe something else. I am also going to make my bread for this month again to test a few tweaks, and I'm going to try a 50% whole wheat version so I can actually answer the inevitable question (you are my favorite kind of bakers, inquisitive and experimental!). And now I really want to try the Farmhouse White...maybe I will make buns and use it as an excuse to have a Memorial Day weekend bbq.

5/19/2007 5:31 AM  
Blogger oopsydeb said...

That's quite a baking day Beth! I'm still not organized to get that much done in a day.

I guess I sort of made buns as my third loaf with Susan's recipe. I only had two loaf pans, so for the third "loaf" I made 10 little balls and baked them in a cake pan. For some reason it didn't occur to me to look in one of my million cookbooks or online for advice on how to make a good bun. So, these are a little small and because I smooshed them into one pan, there a bit high. They remind me a bit of buffet buns. They are, however, still tasty.

5/19/2007 9:30 AM  
Blogger planetKnit said...

Susan, thanks for the response! The buttercrust bread I remember had a "trough" of butter down the center of the crust. I'm prepping to try your recipe right now, so I think I will just wing it with one loaf and see what happens. I'm going to put some softened butter down the center of the crust and see what happens. :)
~karen

5/19/2007 10:16 AM  
Anonymous Artemis said...

I've been curious lately about wheat gluten and of course the possibility of contaminated wheat gluten also having been added to flour to produce bread flour. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

5/19/2007 3:21 PM  
Anonymous Sue said...

Susan--the children have been properly fed and are quite happy with their new bread. It was quite wonderful and I will make it again. Thanks for this blog, I've been having lots of fun baking!

5/20/2007 7:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The loaves are cooled enough and it tastes great-so crusty! and so easy to make.Thanks for a great blog .Getting lots of tips from the comments

Fishook

5/21/2007 3:40 AM  
Blogger Ed Bruske said...

Hate to sound the sour note (don't I always?) but people should not be eating white bread in this day and age. It just isn't good for you...

5/21/2007 2:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have it in for the first proof, and I did add the wheat germ, and used melted butter instead of canola oil. I'll let you know how it all comes out.

Hey, hey, hey, I have a new camera, so you may even get pictures.

judyinktown

5/21/2007 3:37 PM  
Blogger Allena said...

YUMMO! this recipe sounds wonderful. I have a great white bread recipe i use. I'm going to have to try this one. right now i have some rye bread rising so it will have to be tomorrow for trying this recipe out!

5/21/2007 10:34 PM  
Blogger Natalie said...

I am so overly excited to finally see the farmhouse white bread recipe! I'm sensing a baking fit coming on for this weekend!!!

5/21/2007 11:26 PM  
Anonymous Artemis said...

I noted the instruction to dust the tops of the bread with flour but I'm wondering how this tradition came about.

5/23/2007 6:17 PM  
Anonymous Miss Sue said...

I just made 3 mini loaves from a half recipe (still too big...shoulda made 4). Moist and yummy! Rose like crazy. Took me only about 4 hours start to finish. Mine blew out the sides too. I should have either slashed them or proofed them longer, but I notice no one is turning down a slice. I deviated a bit by using white whole wheat for 100g of the total flour. Thank you!

5/24/2007 9:23 PM  
Blogger ejm said...

At last I can get in here!! I've been having trouble accessing the site in the last couple of days...

I too am one of the lucky ones. This recipe is very similar to the one my mom always made. The only difference is that she used (still uses) active dry yeast rather than instant and melted butter rather than canola oil.

I have adapted her recipe for the sandwich bread I make at least once a week to include 1/3 whole wheat flour, 2/3 unbleached all-purpose and olive oil instead of the melted butter in Mom's recipe.

And because I often do not have milk in the fridge, I add powdered skim milk to the dry ingredients. (yes it's true.... we always have 10% cream and yoghurt but we rarely have milk.) In baking, powdered milk works pretty much the same as real milk. 1/3 c instant milk powder + 1 c water is equivalent to 1 c milk. (But check the powdered milk package to be sure.)

The big advantage to powdered milk is that it can be bought in largish quantities, be kept in a cupboard and doesn't spoil as quickly as actual milk.

-Elizabeth, in Canada where the all-purpose flour is great for bread making

5/26/2007 9:07 AM  
Blogger oopsydeb said...

I was going to bake Kevin's sour cream white bread today until I discovered I was out of both sour cream and plain yogurt. So, I returned to Susan's white. This time I used 50% white whole wheat flour. It turned out wonderfully! We're thrilled, since we can eat this with a bit less guilt.

5/26/2007 7:19 PM  
Blogger Sarah Caron said...

YUM! Thanks for including the pan information. That was something I was really wondering about too.

I have a question, possibly a silly one, but a question nonetheless. I haven't made sandwich bread before - do you have any tips for cutting appropriately sized, evenly cut slices?

Thanks!

6/01/2007 4:13 PM  
Blogger rfmonaco said...

WOW Susan, did you really use 2 Tablespoons of instant yeast in that bread? Alot, isn't it?

6/02/2007 12:27 AM  
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6/02/2007 12:28 AM  
Blogger kitchenmage said...

rfmonaco, I think Susan may be out in the back forty with lambs but I believe that 2 tablespoons is right. It's a large batch of bread and I compared it to a couple of my recipes and it seems okay. I'm wondering if it has a smidge extra because of the AP flour...it's also very boufy, fluffy bread.

6/02/2007 2:36 AM  
Blogger ejm said...

You're right, rfmonaco; that does seem like a lot of yeast. Susan's recipe is very similar to the white bread recipe my mom always made. Mom's recipe calls for roughly the same amount of yeast to make 3 loaves (5 tsp active dry yeast, 3 cups milk/water, 9-10 cups allpurpose flour). I used to follow the recipe but about 5 years ago, I cut the amount of yeast in half. The bread turns out just as well in terms of size and the flavour is excellent.

-Elizabeth, in Canada

6/02/2007 5:27 AM  
Anonymous farmgirl susan said...

Hi Everybody,

I'm thrilled so many of you are enjoying Farmhouse White. Didn't mean to go MIA from the comments section. I'm going to start answering the backlog of questions, but the thunder is rumbling so I probably won't fully catch up right now. I figure something's better than nothing, right?

I'm going to start at the bottom and work my way up. . .

rfmonaco & ejm,
Actually, 2 Tablespoons of instant yeast for 10 cups of flour is on the low side for "regular" breads (as opposed to sourdoughs, those that use a poolish or pre-ferment, etc.) Also bear in mind that this recipe produces over 5 pounds of dough.

When I first started baking Farmhouse White 7 years ago, I began with a friend's recipe for basic white bread. It called for 6-1/2 cups of flour and 3-1/2 Tablespoons of yeast, so as you can see, I cut the amount of yeast way down while using lots more flour.

Out of curiosity, I just plucked 5 or 6 random cookbooks off my shelf and checked out yeast amounts called for in various bread recipes. The most popular ratio is 1 packet of yeast to 3 cups of flour. There are 2-1/4 teaspoons of yeast in a packet and 3 teaspoons in a Tablespoon. So that would mean 9 cups of flour would use 6-3/4 teaspoons of yeast. I call for 10 cups of flour and 6 teaspoons of yeast.

Just for kicks, here are a few other popular ratios I found:

In Peter Reinhart's first book, Brother Juniper's Bread Bakery, nearly every recipe calls for 2 Tablespoons of instant yeast for 8 cups of flour--sometimes more.

In The New Basics Cookbook (by The Silver Palate Cookbook gals), the average is 1 packet of yeast for 3 cups of flour.

In Caprial's Soups & Sandwiches (she's a restaurant owner, author of numerous cookbooks, and either had or still has a cooking show on TV), her roasted shallot-herb brioche calls for 2 Tablespoons of active dry yeast for 4-1/2 cups of flour, and her honey bread has 10 cups of flour, 2 cups of bran, and a whopping 4 Tablespoons of active dry yeast.

Of course there are many bread recipes in existence that call for less yeast, too, and I'm certainly not trying to start an argument--or say you're wrong in wondering if this is a lot of yeast. My Farmhouse White probably uses the most yeast of any bread I regularly make. I just wanted to point out these random examples.

You can reduce the yeast in pretty much any bread recipe, but you'll need to let it rise longer. A lot of bakers use the formula "halve the yeast and double the rising time."

One of the reasons I don't use less yeast in my Farmhouse White is because I like being able to produce a tasty loaf relatively quickly. It only takes about 3 hours from start to finish to make this bread, while my sourdoughs start the night before and aren't done until late afternoon or dinner time.

Hi Sarah,
Don't worry--no questions are silly! Unfortunately, this time you just happened to ask probably the worst person, LOL. Joe gets a lot of laughs at the slices of sandwich bread I cut--they are almost never, ever even. Even I'm amazed that after all these years (and hundreds of loaves of bread) I still suck when it comes to slicing.

The joke around here is that I should take the large commercial bread slicer we're going to be using for the little wholesale bread bakery we're building and set it up in the kitchen so I won't have to slice bread by hand anymore. : )

That said, I'm sure there must be somebody out there who has figured out an easy way to cut nice, even slices. Please feel free to share your expertise and make me look like a fool!

Hi Oopsydeb,
I, too, have been experimenting with white whole wheat flour (which, for those of you not familiar with it, is 100% whole grain, but made from a different type of wheat than "regular" whole wheat flour). In the past two weeks I've made two batches of Farmhouse White using 4 cups of King Arthur white whole wheat flour in place of the 4 cups of all-purpose flour. Despite letting it rise far too long in the pans (both times, LOL), it still came out very nice, and made wonderful toast.

I'm hoping to do a follow up post about fiddling with Farmhouse White, but don't hold your breath. I still need to do the pizza topping post. : )

Hi Miss Sue,
You're very welcome. Yep, that's the wonderful thing about homemade bread. No matter how much you think you messed it up, nobody ever turns down a slice--or a loaf! : )

Hi Artemis,
I either dust the tops of my pan loaves of bread or I brush them with water and then sprinkle on a topping such as oats (on oatmeal toasting bread) or cracked wheat (on whole grain bread).

I do these things mainly for looks, as I just happen to think a flour-dusted loaf has a homey-but-professional look to it, if that makes sense.

There's also a technical aspect to the flour dusting, too. I let all of my dough proof (second rise once loaves are formed) either wrapped in a couche (heavy piece of canvas) or in the pans and then covered with a damp tea towel to keep the tops of the loaves moist (this allows them to rise better once they hit the oven). The flour on the tops of the loaves keeps the towel from sticking to the dough--just like dusting the countertop or couche keeps the bottoms of the loaves from sticking.

Natalie,
Weekend baking fits are always good! : )

Allena,
Care to share your great white bread recipe with us? : )

Judy,
Ack. I meant to toss a little wheat germ into one of my batches. Thanks for the reminder.

Fishook,
Glad you like the bread and the blog. Yes, the comments sections are full of great tips. We're working on collecting the best into various posts so they'll be easier to access. Thanks to everybody for your questions, answers, and contributions!

Hi Sue,
Properly fed children and happy bakers are what we like!

Hi Artemis,
Yes, the food contamination scares just keep coming don't they--and they're terrifying. If you're just buying pure flour, it shouldn't have any extra gluten added to it and should be perfectly safe.

Anybody else want to add to this timely topic?

Hi Karen,
Ah, now I know what you mean by buttercrust. YUM. I'd love to know how yours came out. I am a serious butterhound. : )

Hi Oopsydeb,
Yes, this dough lends itself beautifully to rolls and buns of all shapes and sizes. Another topic I'm hoping to quickly cover in a follow up post. I like to brush the tops of the burger buns with water and then sprinkle on some coarse salt--Joe loves salted breads and rolls.

I'm skipping around here, but I've been meaning to get back to Miss Sue regarding the protein percentages in the flour I use--my apologies for the delay.

I use Heartland Mill's "organic unbleached all-purpose flour" and what they call "organic strong bread flour high-gluten flour." I don't know the protein content and haven't had a chance to check on their website (click here). I've been using their flours for years and have been very happy with it. The consistency is good, and I know what to expect from them when baking. I buy my flour in 50-pound bags that I order from the local natural foods store. They just charge me a 15% mark-up over their cost. I pay about $23 a bag for the all-purpose and $28 a bag for the bread flour.

This is a great way to buy flour if you do a lot of baking. If you have the space you can store it in the freezer to keep it fresher. I highly recommend paying the extra money and using organic flours--your homemade breads deserve it, and the results really are better.

The white whole wheat I've been using is from King Arthur, and while I like how it bakes up, it isn't organic. I've heard they sell and organic version, but I haven't found a source for it yet. I've been buying this flour in 5-pound bags at Trader Joe's for about $3 a bag, but they don't always have it in stock when I'm there (which isn't very often). Whole Foods sells it for either $4 or $5 a bag, I can't remember.

Okay, that thunder sounds awfully close now--and LOUD. Oh, and it just started pouring. Better post this while I still can and go let some soggy sheep in the barn!

Happy baking everybody!

6/02/2007 4:08 PM  
Anonymous Emily said...

Hey Susan --

Just wanted to thank you for the recipe - have made it twice in the last week (though cut the recipe in thirds so I could make 1 loaf at a time), and it is fabulous... My husband declares it the best loaf of white bread he's had! One question -- does this freeze well? I've been thinking of making the full recipe and freezing two of the loaves...

Can't wait to try it with some of the white whole wheat flour...

Emily

6/03/2007 9:15 PM  
Anonymous farmgirl susan said...

Hi Emily,
So glad you (and your husband!) are enjoying your Farmhouse White. And yes, you can most certainly make a whole batch and freeze the other two loaves--that's what I always do.

I have yet to find any type of homemade bread that doesn't freeze and defrost beautifully. It's wonderful to be able to make two to four loaves at once--much less work for the baker.

Definitely try this recipe with some white whole wheat flour. It's a nice change from the all white version--and of course a little healthier, too.

Happy baking!

6/05/2007 11:55 AM  
Anonymous Darby said...

Awesome - I just made this today! I used all water - wanted to try out the "cheap" way first.
I only had 2 9x5 metal pans, so the third loaf I put in a 4x8 pyrex pan. The size difference was amazing - check it out - the huge loaf was from my glass pan.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/darbyalycen206/IMG_3506.jpg
I also used olive oil, because that's what I had. Great bread! This will be a staple in our hosue now.

6/23/2007 11:27 PM  
Anonymous Tiffany said...

I use this nifty "Norpro Bread Slicer". It runs a bit less than $20 on Amazon (which is where that link goes). The only problem with this little contraption is... It's my opinion that when you have home made bread, you want slices that are thicker than 1/2 inch. So I only use it when I'm feeling finicky about the perfection of the slices which only accounts for about 1/2 the time I'm slicing.

8/12/2007 2:10 PM  
Anonymous azkenreid said...

A search for "soft white bread" led me to your site. This recipe looks fantastic and so do those loaves. My dough is proofing in an 80 degree oven right now and I have my eye on it lest it leap out and swallow my dog. This is very active dough! Thanks for the recipe and the great instructions.

11/05/2007 9:26 PM  
Blogger Jakob said...

Hi Susan!

I hope you'll see this comment even if it's long after the post.

I found you can buy King Arthur's White Whole Wheat Organic on their web site. It's $6.50 for a 5 lb bag.

Their web site also has info for professional bakers like yourself!

11/16/2007 10:53 PM  
Blogger Farmgirl Susan said...

Hi Jakob,
Thanks so much for the tip! : )

11/17/2007 8:36 AM  
Anonymous Brian said...

Being from the north of England, UK, pardon my ignorance.What is "all purpose flour" as we have strong bread flour, plain or self raising,will any of these suffice? thanks.

11/24/2007 9:48 AM  
Blogger Kevin said...

Brian,
You could use bread flour or "plain," which is probably your version of all-purpose. Self-raising contains chemical leaveners and won't work.

11/24/2007 2:19 PM  
Blogger bach said...

This recipe looks fantastic. I'll be making this tonight for brisket and coleslaw I'm preparing for tomorrow. A quick question: why do you knead the salt into the dough, rather than combine it with all of the other dry ingredients at the beginning?

12/13/2007 4:34 PM  
Blogger Farmgirl Susan said...

Hi Bach,
I think you're going to enjoy this bread. It should be perfect with brisket and coleslaw. And you asked a great question. Here's an excerpt from my post on Farmgirl Fare called "Ten Tips For Better Bread" that explains why I wait to add the salt as well as what an autolyse is and how it improves your loaves:

Giving your dough a rest before adding the salt not only greatly improves nearly any type of bread, but it also allows you to decrease your kneading time (which improves the bread even more). Autolyse (pronounced AUTO-lees and used as both a noun and a verb) is a French word that refers to a rest period given to dough during the kneading process. When making your dough, mix together only the water, yeast, flour, and grains until it forms a shaggy mass. Knead it for several minutes, and then cover the dough and let it rest for 20 minutes. (I simply leave the dough on the floured counter and put my wooden bowl over it.) During this time, the gluten will relax and the dough will absorb more water, smoothing itself out so that it is moist and easier to shape. After the autolyse, knead the dough for several more minutes, mixing in any other ingredients such as herbs or nuts or dried fruit.

Since salt causes gluten to tighten, hindering its development and hydration, it should not be added to the dough until after the autolyse. And if you are using the "old dough" method (where you add a lump of finished dough from a previous batch of bread to your new dough rather than use a sponge or starter), do not mix it in until after the autolyse either, as it contains salt.

When you incorporate an autolyse into your bread baking, you will be rewarded with loaves that have greater volume and a creamier colored crumb, as well as more aroma and sweet wheat flavor. They will also look nicer and taste better. Bread doughs that contain a high proportion of white flour will benefit the most from an autolyse.

Happy baking!

12/13/2007 5:17 PM  
Anonymous John B said...

Ok,you go out of your way to point out that using organic or raw milk is better than water. I agree with that, it makes a richer loaf; however, you take a good recipe down a bad path when using canola oil which is oil pressed from genetically re-engineered rapeseed. See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canola_oil
I prefer butter; however, depending on the style of loaf you can use peanut oil, which is virtually tasteless, or olive oil, which would give the loaf a European flavor. Also, I get excellent results using King Arthur unbleached, unbromated, flour. It is high in gluten and makes a very fine grain bread. There's no need to pay extra for so-called bread flours. Also kudos for including dry weight measures for the dry ingredients. That's the key to a consistent and perfect loaf.

j_brandolini@yahoo.com

1/05/2008 12:29 PM  
Blogger Farmgirl Susan said...

Hi John,
Thanks for taking the time to write and share your opinions.

As for canola oil, I believe it has many benefits compared to other fats, and all canola oil isn't made from Genetically Modified rapeseed. Buying organic canola oil will ensure it isn't GM.

Butter will also work fine in this recipe, as I mentioned in a previous comment. However, I highly recommend using organic butter, as it is far better for people and the environment since it doesn't contain residues from dangerous herbicides and pesticides and chemical fertilizers (except trace amounts because our planet has become so inundated with poisins that you literally cannot escape them), bovine growth hormones, antibiotics, chemical fertilizers, and other toxic things that are routinely given to cows and used on conventional, non-organic dairy farms. Also, conventionally raised cows are usually fed corn, and most (if not all) feed corn that isn't organic (which is extremely hard to find) has been Genetically Modified.

Toxins that have made it into the body often accumulate in fat, so conventional butter, which is all fat, is something that can potentially be filled with really unhealthy (not to mention dangerous) stuff.

Peanuts are routinely produced using lots of toxic chemicals as well, so unless it's organic, peanut oil isn't a real great choice either from a health standpoint. I don't know if there are GM peanuts being grown, but I wouldn't be surprised. Sadly, something like 70% or 80% of all products at a typical supermarket now contain Genetically Modified foods.

Olive oil is a wonderful oil and I use it all the time in cooking, but it will definitely give your bread a completely different flavor. (I haven't tried the "light" olive oils that are sometimes recommended for baking because I buy extra virgin olive oils). Since we use a lot of Farmhouse White Bread to make peanut butter (organic) and jam (organic) sandwiches, the flavor of the olive oil isn't desirable in this recipe.

As far as flours go, that's one of those things bakers all have very strong personal opinions about. While I have a lot of respect for King Arthur flours and sometimes use their white whole wheat flour, I prefer to buy organic flours. I order 50-pound bags of Heartland Mill organic all-purpose and organic high gluten ('strong bread flour') from my locally owned natural foods store.

The bread flour I buy is completely different than the all-purpose flour, and the price really isn't much higher than all-purpose--we're talking a few dollars for 50 pounds.

Ass for weighing the dry ingredients, that's something we do agree on! It does provide more consistency, but even if I weigh everything out to the exact gram, I still find that every time I bake the same recipe I need to modify it slightly (I usually do this by keeping the amount of water constant and adjusting the amount of flour) due to all the variables that affect bread baking: weather, humidity, moisture content of flour, etc. If I used the exact quantities of ingredients for Farmhouse White now that I do in the summer, I would come out with much different results.

Happy baking!

1/05/2008 3:52 PM  
Anonymous Tootsie said...

Hi, Your bread is so easy to make and way more delicious than any other I have tried! My husband (his family does not bake from scratch) was a thrilled by your bread so much so that this morning when I said I was going to make more he cleaned the whole kitchen up (I had been sick) to make it easier for me! L The last time the first loaf did not have a chance to cool at all and it was gone! Thank you! Phyllis

1/15/2008 3:14 PM  
Anonymous breadnbutta said...

I can't wait to try this recipe out~ Thank you for the detailed directions. I grew up eating homemade bread all my life. I did not have a clue that most people didn't until I was like 14! Now that I have a little family of my own I would love to make this recipe for them!

1/21/2008 1:26 PM  
Anonymous Melissa said...

I am thrilled to have found this website! I have been baking our own bread for almost 2 years and there's always something new to learn. I'm going to try your recipe soon.

I wanted to ask your opinion though. Sometimes when I cut into my bread, there is one (or more) holes in it. Goes all the way through the loaf. It's totally frustrating. I assume it's an error in shaping? How can I avoid this?

Thank you - I will really enjoy your site.

2/19/2008 2:51 PM  
Blogger Baby said...

hi! i only have a convention oven and a microwave. i'm from malaysia. how do i make adjustment for this recipe? i only want to make 1 loaf of bread. i can't finish 3 loaves. can help me?

3/03/2008 12:48 PM  
Anonymous Thomasine said...

I just came across this site by accident as I was preparing yet another experiment with white bread - mine is invariably too heavy and too bland-tasting - and I'm delighted with this recipe. I used whole milk for all the liquid and I'm not sure if it was that or the autolyse method that made my loaves much lighter than usual. I also noticed that this recipe has far more salt than I would normally use and I think that improved the taste.

Thank you very much indeed. I shall now explore some of your other recipes.

4/04/2008 10:40 AM  
Blogger DM / Dedicated Runner said...

I'm not sure if you're checking on this page still, with all the comments and whatnot, but I'm planning on making and freezing two of the loaves... but I have a wicked time trying to defrost. Any tips to make them defrost as yummy as they are when fresh?

4/08/2008 3:16 AM  
Blogger kitchenmage said...

DM/DR,

Yep, we're still here. One trick to defrosting is to make sure the loaf of bread stays tightly wrapped until it is thawed. I usually slice my loaves before I freeze them so I can grab as many slices as I need and leave the rest frozen. If you fo this, you can thaw individual slices in the toaster in just a few seconds.

Crusty bread often benefits from a quick recrisping. Put the thawed bread in a paper bag, spritz the outside of the bag with water and heat for 5-10 minutes in a 350 oven.

4/08/2008 3:33 AM  
Anonymous Emily said...

Susan -- I just baked yet another batch of your farmhouse white and had to post again to thank you... It is outrageously good -- the best white bread I've ever made by far, with so much flavor... I could eat half a loaf in one day, no problem! Perfect texture, perfect flavor, perfect for a BLT, perfect slathered with butter...

Thanks again!
Emily

4/09/2008 12:05 PM  
OpenID culinarytravelsofakitchengoddess said...

I baked this yesterday and I have to say it's gorgeous. My egg mayo sandwich never tasted so good :)

4/15/2008 6:32 AM  

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